Thursday, October 1, 2009

Hard to understand how Andre Muran is still operating

Tuesday, September 9, 2008

Andre Muran, Alberta justice... and Andre Mu

Alberta has laws that make it easy for travel clubs to scam consumers- and what is really nasty- the scammers use the law as a means of reassuring consumers and convincing them that signing up with their club is safe.

A perfect example of this is Andre Muran and his various club(s)

People have been told that if they sign up today, they get a bonus and, they need not worry because if they sign up and then change their minds, they can cancel within 10 days and the law in Alberta requires the travel club to refund all monies.

Here is the catch- Andre Muran's companies have been up on criminal charges because what they were doing was telling people that before they could receive their refund, they had to first send the travel club all materials that were given to the consumer in the first place. That includes their contracts. once these materials are safely back in the hands of the scammers, the consumer no longer has any proof that there was ever a contract with the "club"

So the duped consumer can contact Alberta Government Services, but there is then nothing that can be done because there is no evidence- the consumer sent it back.

More recently, I am hearing from scammed people that the "club" is taking a whole new tact. They simply don't answer the phone number that consumers are being given to call if they want to cancel. Once the 10 days allowed by law have lapsed, the consumer is hooped- even though they had no hope of getting anyone on the phone to cancel.

Andre Muran operates a number of businesses. Chateau World or Chateau World of Resorts is the one that is being used most these days. Before, it was Royal Club international, Royal Club Resorts and Royal Crown Resorts. As I understand it, the next one will be Elevations Resort... buyer beware...

Currently, Andre Muran has his staff disparately trying to reorganize Google ranking on his name. Up until recently, the first two pages of links on Andre Muran all exposed him as a scam artist. The strategy being employed at this time is to set up a number of bogus blog accounts with lots of references and links under the name "Andre Muran"- and this strategy is working somewhat. The rankings are changing and Andre's bogus blogs are creeping up in the ranks.

The links to information that these people are trying so hard to hide from people who might google Andre Muran are the following:

Alberta Government Services (Consumer Alert)

http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/933.cfm

Alberta Government Services (Information Bulletin)

http://www.gov.ab.ca/home/NewsFrame.cfm?ReleaseID=/acn/200704/2136233BCCCC8-D980-EE9E-A7856F38886292E1.html

Alberta Government Services (Undertaking)

http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/pdf/undertakings/FTA-Royal_Crown_Resorts-Apr_19_07.pdf

BBB Calgary Report on Chateau World

http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=154&bbb=0017&firm=45652

BBB Calgary Report on Royal Club International:

http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=154&bbb=0017&firm=28353

CFCN Consumer Watch:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/C/20060724/timeshare?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=timeshare&date=20060724&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=consumer&subnav=fullstory&site_cfcn=http://calgary.ctv.ca

CFCN Consumer Watch:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/B,C,C/20050714/stampedefreetruck?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=stampedefreetruck&date=20050714&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=home&subnav=fullstory

CFCN Consumer Watch:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/C/20051020/rcr?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=rcr&date=20051020&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=consumer&subnav=fullstory

Calgary Herald:

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/city/story.html?id=c986f9bd-739c-4c9a-9ed1-a111cc424160

Alberta Courts (Reasons for Judgment in case with Wayne Barry)

http://www.albertacourts.ab.ca/jdb/1998-2003/qb/Civil/2002/2002abqb0211.pdf

CHEATauworld.com

http://www.cheatauworld.com

Rip Off Report 1:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/128/RipOff0128914.htm

Rip Off Report 2:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/206/RipOff0206461.htm

Rip Off Report 3:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/206/RipOff0206466.htm

Rip Off Report 4:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/099/RipOff0099491.htm

Rip Off Report 5:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/099/RipOff0099398.htm

Rip Off Report 6:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/097/RipOff0097699.htm

Realestatetalks.com (discussion board)

http://www.realestatetalks.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32642&p=109742

TUGG BBS (discussion board)

http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum18/HTML/000818.html

Street Talk (discussion board)

http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum18/HTML/000818.html

Yahoo Answers

http://boards.independenttraveler.com/showthread.php?t=7288

Independent Traveller (Discussion Board)

http://boards.independenttraveler.com/showthread.php?t=7288

Consumer Blog 1:

http://my.opera.com/chriss2000/blog/show.dml/58340

Consumer blog 2:

http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwin/blog/index.dml/tag/Andre%20Muran

Consumer Blog 3:

http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwin/blog/scams-scams-and-more-scams-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-people

Consumer Blog 4:

http://my.opera.com/victorwallace/blog/

Consumer Blog 5:

http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwin/blog/index.dml/tag/Royal%20Club%20International

Yahoo Answers

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080426194441AAWzUQv

Connect 2 Edmonton

Monday, September 8, 2008

Great Andre Muran Links

If you are looking for information about Andre Muran, look no further.

Alberta Government Services (Consumer Alert)

http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/933.cfm

Alberta Government Services (Information Bulletin)

http://www.gov.ab.ca/home/NewsFrame.cfm?ReleaseID=/acn/200704/2136233BCCCC8-D980-EE9E-A7856F38886292E1.html

Alberta Government Services (Undertaking)

http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/pdf/undertakings/FTA-Royal_Crown_Resorts-Apr_19_07.pdf

BBB Calgary Report on Chateau World

http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=154&bbb=0017&firm=45652

BBB Calgary Report on Royal Club International:

http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=154&bbb=0017&firm=28353

CFCN Consumer Watch:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/C/20060724/timeshare?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=timeshare&date=20060724&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=consumer&subnav=fullstory&site_cfcn=http://calgary.ctv.ca

CFCN Consumer Watch:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/B,C,C/20050714/stampedefreetruck?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=stampedefreetruck&date=20050714&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=home&subnav=fullstory

CFCN Consumer Watch:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/C/20051020/rcr?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=rcr&date=20051020&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=consumer&subnav=fullstory

Calgary Herald:

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/city/story.html?id=c986f9bd-739c-4c9a-9ed1-a111cc424160

Alberta Courts (Reasons for Judgment in case with Wayne Barry)

http://www.albertacourts.ab.ca/jdb/1998-2003/qb/Civil/2002/2002abqb0211.pdf

CHEATauworld.com

http://www.cheatauworld.com

Rip Off Report 1:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/128/RipOff0128914.htm

Rip Off Report 2:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/206/RipOff0206461.htm

Rip Off Report 3:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/206/RipOff0206466.htm

Rip Off Report 4:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/099/RipOff0099491.htm

Rip Off Report 5:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/099/RipOff0099398.htm

Rip Off Report 6:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/097/RipOff0097699.htm

Realestatetalks.com (discussion board)

http://www.realestatetalks.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32642&p=109742

TUGG BBS (discussion board)

http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum18/HTML/000818.html

Street Talk (discussion board)

http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum18/HTML/000818.html

Yahoo Answers

http://boards.independenttraveler.com/showthread.php?t=7288

Independent Traveller (Discussion Board)

http://boards.independenttraveler.com/showthread.php?t=7288

Consumer Blog 1:

http://my.opera.com/chriss2000/blog/show.dml/58340

Consumer blog 2:

http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwin/blog/index.dml/tag/Andre%20Muran

Consumer Blog 3:

http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwin/blog/scams-scams-and-more-scams-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-people

Consumer Blog 4:

http://my.opera.com/victorwallace/blog/

Consumer Blog 5:

http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwin/blog/index.dml/tag/Royal%20Club%20International

Yahoo Answers

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080426194441AAWzUQv

Connect 2 Edmonton

http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=5192

Andre Muran's Shame

There is allot of negative information about Andre Muran on the internet.
Government investigations, criminal charges and more seem to plague this man and now, it is becoming apparent that he is making an effort to hide the negative information that exists about him by setting up numerous bogus blogs. These are slowly creeping into the top rankings on Google when Andre Muran's name is googled.

These are sites that contain real information about Andre Muran:

Alberta Government Services (Consumer Alert)

http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/933.cfm

Alberta Government Services (Information Bulletin)

http://www.gov.ab.ca/home/NewsFrame.cfm?ReleaseID=/acn/200704/2136233BCCCC8-D980-EE9E-A7856F38886292E1.html

Alberta Government Services (Undertaking)

http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/pdf/undertakings/FTA-Royal_Crown_Resorts-Apr_19_07.pdf

BBB Calgary Report on Chateau World

http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=154&bbb=0017&firm=45652

BBB Calgary Report on Royal Club International:

http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=154&bbb=0017&firm=28353

CFCN Consumer Watch:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/C/20060724/timeshare?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=timeshare&date=20060724&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=consumer&subnav=fullstory&site_cfcn=http://calgary.ctv.ca

CFCN Consumer Watch:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/B,C,C/20050714/stampedefreetruck?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=stampedefreetruck&date=20050714&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=home&subnav=fullstory

CFCN Consumer Watch:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/C/20051020/rcr?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=rcr&date=20051020&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=consumer&subnav=fullstory

Calgary Herald:

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/city/story.html?id=c986f9bd-739c-4c9a-9ed1-a111cc424160

Alberta Courts (Reasons for Judgment in case with Wayne Barry)

http://www.albertacourts.ab.ca/jdb/1998-2003/qb/Civil/2002/2002abqb0211.pdf

CHEATauworld.com

http://www.cheatauworld.com

Rip Off Report 1:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/128/RipOff0128914.htm

Rip Off Report 2:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/206/RipOff0206461.htm

Rip Off Report 3:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/206/RipOff0206466.htm

Rip Off Report 4:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/099/RipOff0099491.htm

Rip Off Report 5:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/099/RipOff0099398.htm

Rip Off Report 6:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/097/RipOff0097699.htm

Realestatetalks.com (discussion board)

http://www.realestatetalks.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32642&p=109742

TUGG BBS (discussion board)

http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum18/HTML/000818.html

Street Talk (discussion board)

http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum18/HTML/000818.html

Yahoo Answers

http://boards.independenttraveler.com/showthread.php?t=7288

Independent Traveller (Discussion Board)

http://boards.independenttraveler.com/showthread.php?t=7288

Consumer Blog 1:

http://my.opera.com/chriss2000/blog/show.dml/58340

Consumer blog 2:

http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwin/blog/index.dml/tag/Andre%20Muran

Consumer Blog 3:

http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwin/blog/scams-scams-and-more-scams-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-people

Consumer Blog 4:

http://my.opera.com/victorwallace/blog/

Consumer Blog 5:

http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwin/blog/index.dml/tag/Royal%20Club%20International

Yahoo Answers

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080426194441AAWzUQv

Connect 2 Edmonton

http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=5192